8 Questions for the Constantly Broke

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I've been an attorney working in private bank trust departments for almost 20 years. I've seen how people with money acquired it and how they retained it. They are smart enough to know that you can never acquire money by spending it. They would sooner die than go into debt to buy consumer goods. They'll go into debt but only to purchase property likely to appreciate.

These are the people who, instead of buying iphone after iphone and ipad after ipad, bought the stock of Apple when it was selling for about $7 early in 2003. Today, July 1, 2010, it sells around $260.

People with money don't care about consumer goods, cars, big-screen TV's or anything else that the masses "must have". They know all this stuff is junk and that to buy it simply wastes money better deployed otherwise. In short, people with money got and kept it not by buying things but by buying the stocks of companies that sell things to other people...you for example.

I'll leave you with this unsettling thought. Suppose you'd had $15,000 in October 1980 and that you'd been of a mind to "invest it". You might have been lured to purchase jewelry, say a diamond ring, on the utterly untrue but long spread lie that diamonds are rare. Any jewelry store would have been happy to lure you in with a lot of special lighting over plush counters served by shills who are trained in how to try to induce you to put reason on hold and think romantically about how happy you would be if only you had a $15,000 diamond ring. They'd tell you it would be "AN INVESTMENT". God help you if you fell for the scam. The ring you'd have bought on Friday, October 10th, 1980 for $15,000 would have been worth about $3,000 on Saturday, October 11th if you'd tried to sell it. It might not be worth even that today.

On Friday, October 10th, 1980, stock of Johnson & Johnson traded around $83 per share; you could have bought 180 shares for $15,000. That investment, a REAL INVSTMENT, would today, July 1, 2010, be worth over $500,000. After 48:1 stock splits, you would have over 8,600 shares of Johnson & Johnson paying annual cash dividends of almost $19,000.

You can be young in this country and be without money but this is no country in which to be old and without money. If you have no money you have no power. If you want to end up parking cars for a high school kid who owns a parking lot, keep doing what you've been doing. Keep buying "diamond rings". If you want to have some say about where and how you live and on what terms, leave the consumer good on the shelves and buy the stocks of companies that sell things to other people. Just make sure you're not the "other person".

Good luck.

Richard of MA 11:17AM July 01, 2010

All I can tell you to keep reminding yourself, is "This too will pass." I raised my two children in exactly your status. Good schools keep the rent high, and I never thought that was fair, but that's what capitalism does (I understand now.)

Please understand you are not alone. The majority of parents are going through what you describe. As soon as my children reached the age of 16, they got jobs and paid for their own clothes, which certainly helped. But I still remember the pain of not being able to buy my daughter the Cabbage Patch doll all her friends had. Somehow we got through it and you will too.

Andrea Friedell of TX 10:57AM June 29, 2010

I am entering into graduate school this fall, and I have accumulated major student loans (one loan each school year). I don't have to pay them back until a year after I graduate (I'm trying for a doctorate) and I will be (most likely) making great money when I finally graduate in another eight years... however, when I tried to apply for a loan to purchase my house (buying it through my mom), I was denied due to excessive student loans. Any suggestions?

bj of OR 1:27AM May 25, 2010

i am a single mom and i have struggled my whole life i have not relied on anyone for help everyone i know is broke i do all that i do the best i can my daughter is going to college to better her life i push her to the limit she don't like it but she will thank me later and i don't want her to struggle like i did so the real story is it don't matter where you go in life or how much you have it's who you have beside you is all the matters people focus on money money all the time money isn't everything

mary altman of OH 12:35PM May 24, 2010

I work everyday--I mean that literally. Despite that, I am deeply in debt. Because I was out of work for two years prior to my current job, my credit took a major hit. Despite having paid off most of my debt, I'm still having problems. I still rent and even rent is on the high end--if I want to be in a safe area with good schools for my children--and having children of the opposite sex prevents me from getting a two-bedroom. Where I live, the cheapest rent in the better areas of the city starts at $1000 a month and that's a lot of money. I can't even get a rental place due to my credit as it is, so I'm limited to where I can go.

In six months, my finances will be back on track again. But what do I do in the meantime? It's easy to say, "Just pay your bills and live within your means," when you're earning high five-or-six figures a year. But what if you don't? There is only so much you can do. I can't buy a cash car because it requires me to have $3000 minimum on hand and I don't. I have to have a car to get to my job because it isn't on the bus line, so monthly payments it is. It will be paid for in August, so that's a plus. Then there's insurance--health, rental, life and auto--and I've shopped around for the best rates possible and got the best rates for my region for auto insurance and health insurance is expensive for a family of three with preexisting conditions and rental insurance is a must, so I can't drop that. We don't eat out, we entertain at home, I don't go out, there is no weekly or even monthly run to the hairdresser or nail salon or mall for shopping, even though my children really need new clothes. I've cut the grocery bill to semi-starvation limits; I don't eat so the children can and that has made me sick in the past month, so I eat sparingly. I had to cancel my gym membership and the YMCA membership and cut out just about every extravagance and now everyone is agitated and bored with no outlet, which led my son to hang himself and now I have to pay out of pocket for the expenses the insurance won't cover and meet a high deductible, which takes even more out of the budget.

So now I'm looking for a cheaper place to live; a friend offered to rent a house with me, but I want my own place. All I can do is pick up and forge on ahead amid the criticisms and judgments of the financially secure and well-to-do. Just keep in mind, while all this info is sound and sensible, it does little for those who earn just enough to stay afloat, where a catastrophe such as car repairs can devastate the budget because there is little to no wiggle room to begin with. Having an education is great, but remember and keep in mind a degree isn't going to feed you; it just lets you decide what you want to do to eat. In this economy, most jobs are gone and to those who think people should get a job at McDonald's or Kroger should try supporting a family on minimum wage and come back and tell us about it. I'm sure it will be interesting to hear about it.

Shannon of OH 9:20PM May 23, 2010

"Where Does the Money Go?

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Does-Money-Introducing-management/dp/0595441793/ref=sr_1_11/105-8716985-0709233?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187317200&sr=1-11

Ralph of FL 12:50PM May 03, 2010

We have cc's with points so everything goes on the cc with the best return. NO balance carried EVER. So at the end of the year I get $500-850 back! We have NO debt, not car, home (we have 5 homes), 4 are rentals, good income from the sale of business. We have owned our water front home for many years. We do not waste money.

Friends of mine are loosing their home, their cars are not pd for, they waste money like crazy. I had to laugh last wk when they were over for dinner. They have to treat themselves every week with something. They think a treat will make everything right. My treat every day is I owe nothing to no-one. When I get up in the morning and look out at the water, I know the view is mine, and will always be mine.! What a treat! We worked hard, nthing was given to us and we are not rich, but through diligent spending we are in pretty good shape.

It was work, but worth it, anyone can do it. All these people loosing their homes, totally unnecessary, I will bet they were always on a spending spree. Now they expect us to bail them out, why should we, I did not work hard & save to pay for someone elses extravagance.

Kate of SC 9:27AM May 03, 2010

Why FedEx needs a UNION!!!

Go to YouTube, search word: FedEx Inhumane Treatment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ynb...

JC of KY 5:31PM May 02, 2010

My Attitude: If I can't pay cash, then I can't afford it.

That goes for everything except for the first house which was a modest normal 1200sq ft ranch style. Paid it off in 10 years and have been debt free since. Always save 25% of the paycheck --Pay yourself first before anyone else. I do use a Discover card for the 'cash back', but set aside and pay it off every month, otherwise it's cash only, not even a debt card. When your debt free, your tend to accumulate cash fast since your not paying an extra 20% interest on things. Once you are paying cash, it just becomes second nature to question "Do I really need this"? Most of the time the answer is NO. The money ends up buying stock in something that pays long term dividends, like Altria, McDonalds, Waste Management, Wal-Mart, Sherwin-Williams, etc. yeah there's other stocks, but I like to sleep at night and just collect dividends. Oh, yes, I listen to Dave Ramsey.

Jack Thompson of OH 4:41PM April 30, 2010

Pay cash for everything, save like crazy, then you can live debt free. The banks do not need your 'credit/interest'--they have government bailouts. www.DaveRamsey.com

Dave of TN 4:23PM April 30, 2010

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Kimberly Palmer, senior editor for U.S. News & World Report, is the author of Generation Earn: The Young Professional's Guide to Spending, Investing, and Giving Back. Send her your personal finance questions.


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