Greenspan vs. Buffett

October 27, 2008 RSS Feed Print

If Alan Greenspan lived on a flood plain, would he buy insurance?

When the former Federal Reserve chairman testified before Congress recently, he kicked off his remarks by announcing that "we are in the midst of a once-in-a-century credit tsunami." Those once-in-a-century analogies are usually used to explain away something that's so rare you can't possibly be blamed if you fail to prepare for it. Plan for every hundred-year disaster and there's little time or money left to invest in the good life.

Greenspan's shrug-off brought to mind Warren Buffett, who's made news lately by snapping up big chunks of Goldman Sachs and General Electric at depressed prices and by generally being the only living person expressing any optimism at all about stock markets. There's also a new book about Buffett, The Snowball by Alice Schroeder, who spent hundreds of hours talking with the Oracle of Omaha. Buffett is famous for his ability to calculate risk—and avoid it—which is the very thing that banks and consumers catastrophically failed to do over the past couple of years. "He always thinks through what's the worst possible thing that could happen," Schroeder told me during an interview. "What we're seeing now is a lot of people who said, 'This kind of calamity has never happened before, so it probably won't happen to me.' But that doesn't mean the calamity will never happen."

Contrast that with Greenspan's Panglossian perspective. By way of explaining the housing boom and subprime lending explosion he presided over—which caused the housing bust and recession we're enduring now—Greenspan described the "best insights of mathematicians and finance experts" whose job was to make sure that that credit tsunami didn't happen. But instead, he testified, "the whole intellectual edifice...collapsed in the summer of last year because the data inputted into the risk management models covered only the past two decades, a period of euphoria." Bad data. Bad outcome. Tsunami.

The solution, Greenspan pointed out, would have been mathematical models "fitted more appropriately to historic periods of stress." In other words, the long view.

But there was at least one finance expert whose risk-management models predicted a chance of catastrophe. In his Berkshire Hathaway shareholder letter from 2002, Buffett wrote that derivatives—such as credit-default swaps, now causing tremors in world markets—were "toxic" investments, "time bombs" that could wreck the financial system. In his 2003 shareholder letter, Buffett famously called derivatives "financial weapons of mass destruction." At around the same time, Greenspan was lowering interest rates to historically low levels, fueling a lending binge, a housing bubble, and the mass securitization of mortgages good and bad. He was also extolling the virtues of derivatives, arguing that the benefits outweighed the costs and that more regulation was unnecessary.

The Snowball also details how Greenspan and Buffett both played a role in cataclysms that might not have been once-a-century events but were certainly dramatic contretemps during Greenspan's "period of euphoria." One of them was the 1991 bond-trading scandal at Salomon Brothers, which mushroomed into a kind of bank run that nearly sank one of Wall Street's mightiest investment banks. Buffett, a big Solomon shareholder, saw the risks of collateral damage up close and engineered a rescue effort that helped prevent turmoil at other banks. Greenspan, as Fed chairman, also had a front-row seat, and called Buffett at one point to offer his encouragement.

Then, in 1998, the huge hedge fund Long-Term Capital Management nearly collapsed, threatening another global run on the financial system. The fund's proprietors lobbied Buffett for a big capital infusion, but he demurred. Instead, it was Greenspan who engineered an unprecedented bailout of the private firm, lest its problems infect dozens of other institutions.

Buffett has since preached about the lessons of those incidents, while more euphoric investors apparently forgot them. Buffett's message of prudence was unwelcome during the housing boom, when he seemed like a financial fuddy-duddy. Newsweek even called him "the alarmist of Omaha."

But after the first domino fell in the current crisis—when the government bailed out a rump Bear Stearns earlier this year—Buffett put the pieces together in an interview with Schroeder. "It's a version of what I went through at Salomon," he said, "where you were just inches away all the time from, in effect, an electronic run on the bank."

Greenspan was there too, but he seems to have drawn different lessons. If it wasn't a hundred-year calamity, it didn't seem to count. Who needs insurance when you have exuberance?

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The enabler and the plodder.Greenspan was the placesetter for Big business,banks financial institutions etc. By setting rates to keep the stock market going and feeding the moneychangers as well as changing the data used to make sound financial policy by not including energy prices for inflation and using financial institutions income for trade deficit stats he could portray the economy of wall street as what runs our capitalist system.

On the other hand Buffett is the head of a money making system which relys on good honest data which will work only if all the factors are included in the formula.

The cows will come home and produce what is fed to them.I think the results are very clear and until the financial system stops working with smoke and mirrors and uses hard honest work to gauge the economy like investments should be then we are doomed as the nation we used to be.

bob simard of MA 12:30PM August 29, 2009

There is a larger difference between the two titans: Greenspan is an unrepentant disciple of the discredited greed theories of Ayn Rand, while Buffett is a simply a pragmatist. Greenspan gained a reputation like the flea on the tail of Seabiscuit by taking credit for a financial expansion engineered by Presidential and Congressional restraint. When he recently found a President and Congress more in tune with his philosophy, he and they dissed the economy, leaving the pieces to a new Fed Chairman and a new President and Congress with philosophical and moral values different from his. While Mr. Buffett has certainly benefited during the same period, his pragmatism sheltered him from Greenspan's hubris and has certainly protected his investments from the serious debacle suffered by Greenspan's Federal Reserve, the quasi Gov't Entities (FNMA and FHLMC) he spurred into subprime risk, and the investment banks he encouraged, and the economy he failed protect.

Dan The Man of CA 8:23PM August 18, 2009

It is in best interest of ceo to run short term high profit and shift future problems to the next guy. Higher profits ->> higher bonuses. What in best interests of the business may not be in best interests of the CEOs and top executives. There practices were not much different from Enron, though they did not do anything illegal. Partially they did not care whether loans were sound or not because they sold them and charge management fees.

Victor of CA 11:12PM April 03, 2009

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