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Robaji11 of TN 2:16AM April 25, 2013

This is great advice, but I would expand on number two to say that interviewees should be wary of being treated TOO well in the interview.
At my last job, I had one of the best interviews ever. The CEO was friendly, jovial and cracked a lot of jokes. The operations manager was chatty and seemed like a calm, caring person. I thought it seemed like a friendly, happy office.
Boy. That great interview masked a ton of problems: the CEO turned out to be a narcissistic glad-hander who uses humor to get people to like him, but that humor masked total ineptitude. Behind the jokes was almost no skill or substance. He was more interested in being the "good cop," leading the ops manager to fill the "bad cop" role. She was only too happy to do it and she routinely humiliated the staff. Nary a week passed without someone breaking down in tears.
It was a nightmare working there, and I fell for it by getting sucked into it by the laugh-heavy interview. The CEO was so good at being the nice guy, too, that no one ever believed me when I told them the truth about working there.
Next time I have an interview like that, I'm going to greet it with the suspicion it deserves.

GladIEscaped of IL 3:38PM April 11, 2011

Hmmm Very interesting...
Seems that these days Retail has a huge turn over rate.
-At one IT job interview a few months ago the following happened. I was asked write a proposal on how to introduce Windows 7 into a school environment and how the effects of an upgrade would affect teachers/staff/students/admins. Didn't get that job...
-At another job post interview (where I was offered something), I was asked to come in to give a presentation on how a lego robotics course could be offered to their program. Everything went well and the owner said give him a few weeks so he can set things up (advertise and so on)...followed up a few weeks later only to get an email saying that "I told him that I knew nothing about robotics..." when in actually I was the one who taught and gave him the presentation. In that email he said he found someone else but was interested in learning more about what I had to offer his robotics program......what?
-At a panel interview for a job that I was hoping for 6 years ago, everything went well and they were very impressed with what I had to offer and wanted me to come on board ASAP. I told them that I needed to give my other place notice first and they said ok and that HR would be in contact with me by the end of the week. Gave notice to my old job and left.....while the new job never called me back. Called HR and they said they never got notice from the place to hire me! Luckily I had a back up job in place ready to go.
-Years later there was an opening for that same job. This time the interview was sloppy. First they made me wait 40 minutes, then when the lady finally came to get me to escort me to the panel interview she stopped for another 10 minutes to talk to her friend about their weekend! Finally when that was over the interview was a mess. They had the nerve to accuse my portfolio of being clip art copies while dumping their MS office templates on top of my work , then telling me the position is part time (not full time as advertised) with no befits. I didn't get that job....however years later I did reapply but from what a good friend source close to that department said to me is that "they thought I was cocky during the first interview..." wait what? Seems whenever that position opens up (every 6-8 months), they seem to pull people from another part of the county to work there.

CTEACHER of VA 11:36AM April 11, 2011

Some of the interviewers may get the wrong impression about age or goals when you overdress for an interview. I worked in IT for many years then returned to school to become a nurse. It has become ingrained that the better one dresses the better the results of the interview. This isn't necessarily true, and depends on the profession as I recently discovered. Hopefully it did not negatively impact one of my recent interviews and now I will change how I dress at future interviews.
I walked into a 2nd interview at one hospital and the receptionist stated, to the interviewing manager's voicemail, "the sales rep is here to see you now". Fortunately the interviewing manager did not listen to her voice mail and just showed up in the lobby to meet me. I hadn't thought about the impression I was making just yet.
I went to an interview for the same position at another hospital and all was going well until a 2nd person came into the room. I was in the middle of answering the question, "how can your IT skills help you in your nursing career", when the 2nd interviewer walked in. She started asking negatively charged questions. I will never forget when she looked at me then asked, "why didn't you become a sales person", while commenting about my past experience with a pharmaceutical manufacturer. I got home after the interview and my wife stated, "you shouldn't wear the suit. It looks really good, but it makes you look older, authoritative and like a salesman". Suddenly the bells went off. This was a bad impression to cast while interviewing for the particular nursing role I was going for.
I really cannot afford to waste interviews, but I lost the job opportunity at the 2nd hospital. The hospital was specifially looking for new grads and my friend who was already working there in the same role, though I was sure to get the position. He just thought it must have been a personality difference, but now I realize it was mostly appearance. I am waiting to see if the first hospital will call me back for the 3rd possible interview they suggested. I have learned from others successes that for my role, I should dress in a current business casual that shows I am up to date but willing to learn as a "new grad", that will listen and not dictate my lack of knowledge in the new role, to others. I need to appear very positive without being set in my ways. This can all be done through clothing and appearance.

John Marcus of IL 7:40AM April 10, 2011

Thank you, Lindsay, for the concise, informative article. In the PR industry, I've had some particular experience with points #1, #2 and #4. I have been to some meetings where the interviewer is clearly working their Blackberry under the conference room table. (If it's NOT their Blackberry, then I really don't want to know.) My mentor, just a few years after my internship, advised me to be confident (but not cocky) about my value and experience and to focus on finding the right buyers. To support another point you make, if it's not a good interview experience, then it's unlikely the work environment will be a positive one.

Mark Haviland of NJ 6:08PM April 07, 2011

These are great tips, and I'd add another here--if an organization starts your interview process with one title and changes it to another without good reason, that's a sign there is confusion about the position on the org chart, and that may filter into your job responsibilities at some point.

Lesly Simmons of CA 12:47PM April 07, 2011

This is great advice. I'd like to add another more subtle one: When interviewing with your future manager and he or she won't make eye contact. It's a sign they're hiding something from you.
With the number of unemployed in the market, there are companies that will take advantage of one's desperation just to have a job. Certainly, you need to put food on the table, but accepting a job offer when any of the above signs are present, will most likely have you back on the market soon. You may not know for sure whether you've found the perfect job, but you will know in your gut that it is wrong with these signs exist.
Lew Sauder, Author, Consulting 101: 101 Tips For Success in Consulting

Lew Sauder of IL 9:41AM April 07, 2011