When Does Old Age Begin?

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Wrevyerance of AL 6:22PM January 05, 2010

The diversity of answers to the Pew survey likely reflects the diversity of our population and how we view aging. What we do know right now is that we are not yet able to prevent the common syndromes – like loss of bladder control, difficulty with gait and balance, and memory loss – that contributes to the burden of older adults. We can also predict that older adults who live into their mid-70s are likely to suffer from one or more common diseases of aging such as osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, or some form of cardiovascular disease. The congruence among respondents – that someone is old when s/he turns 85 (79 percent) or can no longer live independently (76 percent) – mirrors the thinking from members of the American Geriatrics Society (AGS) about the ways in which older persons benefit when cared for by a geriatrician.

Geriatricians are those physicians with special training in care of older adults. In a recent survey of geriatricians who are members of the AGS, we found that 75 percent of our physician members chose the same groups that would benefit from care by a geriatrician. The patients selected were older than 85, had severe functional impairments, complex biomedical programs, were frail, or had geriatric syndromes. Geriatrics, with its emphasis on care management and care coordination, helps older people maintain functional independence in performing daily activities and improve their overall quality of life.

Alarmingly, the United States is facing a shortage of geriatricians. According to data from our AGS Geriatrics Workforce Policy Studies Center, there are less than 7,500 certified geriatricians in the United States – less than half the number needed to care for the almost 11 million older adults who are frail and in need of their care. By 2030, when we estimate there will be 21 million Americans in need of a geriatrician, the demand, given current recruitment trends – will far exceed the available supply.

Given our increasing longevity, Americans should take their potential future medical needs into account when planning for retirement – including the likely possibility that they will need care from someone who is especially trained to provide that care. For this reason, AGS works together with leaders and lawmakers to raise awareness and offer potential solutions to pressing problems in elder health care – such as the growing shortage of geriatrics health care professionals and Medicare financing and reimbursement problems.

To learn more about the geriatrician shortage visit the AGS’ Web site at www.americangeriatrics.org. Through our Foundation for Health in Aging (www.healthinaging.org), we offer resources and materials for patients and their families.

Nancy Lundebjerg

Deputy Executive Vice President & COO for the AGS

Nancy Lundebjerg of NY 12:29PM July 15, 2009

I know that American culture would say that I am old. I turned 72 today. When I think about my chronological age, it seems so unreal. 73 was how old my grandmother was when she died. I am so far away from that that it is incomprehensible that I am considered old.

I work, go to school, go to the gym, garden, bike ride, want to learn how to dance better than I do, and play tennis as well as occasionally walk dogs for other people.I work as a Sign Painter, and have been painting all of my life. As a Sign Painter I climb ladders and haven't noticed any difficulty in carrying ladders or climbing up on them. . I am not overweight. Have absolutely nothing wrong with me physically, and don't intend to ever get sick. I don't know what is going to kill me but it sure a'int gonna be something related to the typical American diet. I don't eat meat because I hate the way the animals are treated and I don't like the fact that cattle are supposed to eat grass and not corn that turns into sugar in their body and subsequently in the person who consumes it. I eat lots of vegetables and fruit, a little bit of fish, and no more chicken. I used to eat chicken until I found out that they fatten up the chickens so much that they can't walk on their own two legs.

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I think one of the main reasons that I feel so young is because I never had children. Maybe I just refused to grow old because I refused to grow up. Maybe I'll just get hit by a truck. Hopefully I won't feel it.

Ellen Korak of CA 3:29PM July 10, 2009

When I was 41, I pulled out in front of a college kid. She yelled at me "Get out of the way, you Old Geezer". Shock, boy was that shock. I had no gray hair. I then learned it is a tough world. When I was 22 through age 35, I was carded for buying liquor.

Today, I have gray hair, about 25 pounds over my optimum weight and get up in the morning stiff. I think I am aging but still look at girls in bikini's. Still make my heart patter but not much I could do about what I think about.

The financial mess has affected our family, not so much a normal recession or correction, but the Graft, Greed, and Fraud that has taken place with the help of our elected officials. The banks and Wall Street have influenced the judgement of our elected officials with money. Money that our incumbent elected officials use, about 7 million dollars to get re-elected against good challengers that are lucky to raise $250 thousand dollars. And those who are benefiting from this huge re-election war chest will not vote for election reform to make the playing field level.

This happened in our lifetime, since the early 80's, when millions of dollars was poured into an aging US Senator so he could fight a challenger on TV and he got re-elected.

The Fraud, the laws passed in favor of Financial Institutions from Banks, to Credit Card Companies, and Wall Street is killing this country and my ability to retire.

Next year I will reach full retirement age, and still working.

I have no confidence in our government. The cost of health care is killing us. All because of the money being poured into our governemnt and media, like Rush Limbaugh who is paid $38 million a year, for three hours a day, spouting the benefits of having Banks, Corporations, and Healthcare for Profit to his listeners distorting the realities of what is going on in our country.

We better take back this country and do it soon. Have you noticed that the bonuses of Goldman Sach's ($700,000 per employee) has faded from view in the media?

When it comes to old age, I will probably die, on the job thanks to our Government.

Mike of UT 7:01AM July 09, 2009

Everything mentioned were just examples of states of being.

I think chronological is the way to go.

On average an American lives about 75 years.

We always talk about "the young", "middle age", and "old folks".

Therefore if you are young you should be at birth up to 25 years old.

Middle age: 25 to 50 years old, and

Old Age: 50+ years.

The rest is just how you feel and that can change from moment to moment.

Have a beautiful day at any age.

Kegler299 of TN 6:11PM July 08, 2009

I am 70, look 55, and feel like 45. I have great health, stamina and look great, play golf, run on the treadmill, etc. Old age is more a state of being than chronology. You are old when you need someone to take care of your needs, whatever the number of years you've attained.

Carol of NJ 5:48PM July 08, 2009

...and getting old is a lot better than the alternative. I think it was Groucho Marx that said, "Being old is something you get if you are lucky."

Americans worship at the altar of youth unfortunately, bowing down to the icons of Barbie and Ken. At 61 I am finding that I have more to give now than ever, yet find that employers and other swim in the polluting waters of ageism. Often the very people who would benefit from being mentored by someone older don't appreciate what they missed until they're older and (hopefully) wiser.

We need a real shift in attitudes about getting older, being older and working with people who are older. Because the Third Wave coming is a real tsunami!

'CareerKen' of MI 2:43PM July 08, 2009

Age (unfortunately) is defined by how OTHERS perceive us. We can think & feel what we want ala wishful thinking. If you have & wrinkles/lines regardless of health issues or having grandchildren - you are old, Case Closed. gray hair does not necessarily mean one is OLD... The world is today is FULL of Botox & Silicone injections to "fix" old age as OTHERS perceive it so that we can continue to work, compete & thrive in the work force.

Ria Gant of LA 1:56PM July 08, 2009

As someone who found gray hairs before I was 20 and who plans to work indefinitely, these statistics are interesting to read to gauge trends and understand the collective American psyche. What's really great is the stat you mention about the reality of aging not being as great as the fears we might have of it. While nothing makes us feel as old as aches and pains and certainly a chronic illness, the fear that many of us now have is that our money won't outlive us. Will we be able to have medical needs met and paid for? An important message is that it's never too earlier to start planning, not just how to pay for old age, but also who will be there to help, will it be a family member or a care manager? Being alone and unable to care for yourself--that is what we all need to take steps to avoid so that the last years of life don't need to be filled with anguish. There's no Clairol to cover that!

julie davis of CT 1:50PM July 07, 2009

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