Mark Zandi on the Housing Bottom

September 16, 2008 RSS Feed Print

I just spoke with Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody's Economy.com, informal adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign, and the author of "Financial Shock: A 360 Degree Look at the Subprime Mortgage Implosion, and How to Avoid the Next Financial Crisis." In our conversation, Zandi offered his outlook for the housing market.

Excerpts:

When do you expect housing prices to stabilize?
Summer 2009. Prices will fall another as much as 10 percent from their current levels. We are down 20 percent from their peak.

Why then? What are the factors behind that?
The key factor is a restoration of housing affordability because that is vital to housing demand. And I think it is going to take another 5 to 10 percent decline in house prices—along with another 5 percent increase in effective apartment rents—before we have affordability back to where it needs to be to restore demand.

How about inventory?
That is the second criteria. We need to get rid of all the excess inventory before prices start rising. And I think that won't happen until...the fall of 2010. It's going to take about two years to work off all the excess inventory... That two-year timeline, obviously, is dependent on the level of construction and underlying housing demand.

We are already seeing construction come off.
Right. In fact, we may hit a new post-World War II low somewhere in here over the next few months.

How important is that to stabilizing home values?
That is absolutely vital to working off that inventory.

How about the bear case? What could change to prolong the decline in home prices ?
Well, it could be that the job market erodes measurably more than anticipated. It doesn't really matter if house prices are affordable relative to incomes if you don't have a job. So, if the job market continues to erode and unemployment continues to increase—and I'm expecting a bad job market when I give you these projections—but if it weakens more than I expect, which is very, very possible, then the bottom in prices is further into the future and the day when they start to rise is well into the next decade.

What additional variables are at work here?
The other key variable is the cost and availability of mortgage credit. That could be plus or minus, particularly given the government takeover of Fannie and Freddie. If fixed rates stay below 6 percent, that's a great thing... But if for whatever reason that started to rise—who knows—then that would be a problem. Also, I think a lot depends on how aggressive Fannie and Freddie and the FHA can be in extending out credit later this year into next. And that would be very helpful if they could become more aggressive in extending out credit. If they can, that could ensure that my forecast comes true.

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With all due respect to Mark Zandi, his prognosis is completely disingenuous. First, the high number of nationwide foreclosures means NAR stats are subject to bank manipulation. A simple comparison of MLS listings and Realtytrac data (excluding pre-foreclosures/auction properties) shows that all foreclosures are not being listed – not by a long shot. This means prices are being artificially supported and that NAR supply figures are completely skewed. (See this CNBC interview with Realtytrac CEO for more about this problem.)

Secondly, Zandi relies on the assumption that the GSE’s will have an audience beyond the Federal Reserve after this summer – what a joke. This January alone, the Fed blew through 15% (+/-) of a $500 billion fund allocated to sop up excess Agency MBS. Why? Because their natural audience of buyers (China/Japan) are busy fighting their own economic battles and rethinking their exposure. I think it would be amazing to see the GSE’s survive this year without becoming government utility. Even then, the weight on our treasuries would prove disastrous.

The fact is, until all foreclosures get put on the market and prices naturally fall further (well beyond 10% from today levels), we’ll sputter along like Japan did in the 1990’s or worse. The benefit of a complete and total crash in prices is that if the FHA survives it, they’ll be positioned to finance more purchase on smaller loan amounts. Until then, each purchase at today’s still-bloated prices eats away at the finite funds of tomorrow. Prices need to roll back to 1999 levels at least to meet the supply of credit.

Market Observer of CA 7:56PM February 06, 2009

can you tell me why 8%.

chris of AZ 12:45AM September 19, 2008

Interest rates were too low too long. Mortgages should be 8% and should have been for the past decade. We would have smaller homes that people could actually buy, even at higher interest. We would not have this nutty notion that everyone needs a granite countertop. Formica is and always was fine.

$200,000 for a starter home in podunk junction? $400,000 in a hot metro? Because 5.5% money is available while inflation is more than that? It is and has been nuts too long.

of 5:16PM September 16, 2008

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