Protectionism: The 'Crack Cocaine' of Economics Is On The Rise

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this is the most ignorant peice of crap i have ever read. you need to do your homework and understand the problems of protectionism. hasnt the smoot hawley act during the great depression exemplified anything for you. this is a global dilemma and you make it your selfish interest, but needless to say history does and will repeat itself because moronic people like this guy continue to remain selfish and ignorant

Supr3macY of SC 3:08AM February 18, 2009

The House version of the bill dictates that if construction or repair is being done on public facilities and using US materials (steel etc) will not increase the cost more than 25%, US products MUST be used! Are you kidding me! It's government dictated pricing. The government is forcing us to pay for it. If it is my tax money that is footing the bill, and make no mistake it is, I want the best price, not what some nameless person in Washington DC thinks it should be. It's anti-competitive, anti-market, and in the end counter-stimulative.

Barry of PA 12:12PM February 05, 2009

Bob Haywood does not consider the upstream side and its ability to spin off secondary employment WITHIN America.

My point is that the economic multiplier effect is lost if he initially sends American dollars out of the country.

His point is about downstream accumulation of lost jobs. He remarks, for example, about "fewer infrastructure projects done for the same dollars" since fewer dollars will be left after the presumably more expensive American goods (steel in his example) are purchased by the initial contractor.

(An aside -- American goods are going to be, in most cases, VERY competitive, so Bob Haywood's example is somewhat theoretical. Any American company that was not "competitive" in the last 10 years has already seen its jobs go offshore, or it has gone out of business. So those goods, no longer made locally, would necessarily be imported. And internal competition will not permit locally-made goods to be sold at inflated prices, as some have argued.)

So Haywood's argument would be correct if that was all there was to it.

But let's consider the American dollars sent offshore to Korean steel mills if that is where they went, to buy cheaper steel. That wealth will not get repatriated to America for some time (either in trade or lent money).

So there is zilch ability of those sent-away dollars to do any more good within America.

On the other hand, if the (presumably more expensive) American steel goods WERE actually purchased from an American steel mill, then the American employee wages paid could subsequently go to the local greasy spoon, to the local dollar store, to the local bar, to the local health care system, and so on.

Expatriated dollars would have a hard time doing that.

Again, most steel mills are, as most American businesses are, very competitive in today's world. So even without the spinoff benefits, Haywood's argument is weak. American businesses and workers are the most productive in the world. (Don't forget that this productively is what DIRECTLY has created one of the best living standards in the world.)

So even if a few dollars are initially "lost" here and there to higher prices, the net effect of spending at home is positive, and is not diluted by the mechanism that Bob Haywood cites. At least IMO, that is.

A. Viirlaid 11:36AM February 04, 2009

To Ray: "Buy America" will increase costs. If it did not there would be no need to make a law. The contractor will by the least expensive item he can. If that is American, he will buy it without the "Buy America" clause. If the cheapest is not American, and he is forced to buy American at a higher price, then it will increase costs. Since must increase costs, we will have fewer infrastructure projects done for the same dollars which will cost jobs in the construction industy. Since the steel industry has fewer jobs per dollar of revenue than the construction industry-- Steelworkers are more productive--the projects left undone in the construction industry will cost more jobs than the added demand on the steel industry will create. The result is that either the "Buy America" clause is not needed or it will cost jobs. There is no other possible outcome.

Bob Haywood of CO 3:19AM February 04, 2009

It is silly to refer to Protectionism as the Crack Cocaine of Economics. This just trivializes the human misery from crack cocaine and other hard drugs.

IMO the potential damage from protectionism, while real, is far less significant than most of us might think. Most of the contraction in international trade results FROM the debt-bubble IMPLOSION and resulting contraction in business activity. It has little to do with any protectionism.

The same was true in the 1930-s. We misread history when we ascribe any substantial negative effects to the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. International trade would have collapsed regardless.

It's like Deflation. We assume price deflation should be avoided at ALL costs, because our Central Bankers say that it causes the collapse of Aggregate Demand of goods and services.

This is backwards. It is the collapse of aggregate demand that causes price deflation, more in some sectors than others. So just as fighting price deflation will have a low payoff (if not cause outright harm), so it is with fighting against trade protectionism.

This fight also assumes that everyone will play fair. That won't happen because it is not happening today. Asian countries have quite consciously constructed export-oriented economies. They coddle their industries with invisible protection every day.

They do this via currency manipulation. When an Asian exporter converts earned U.S. money to its local funds to pay wages and buy local goods, that exporter gives some of its earned U.S. currency to its central bank which PRINTS new local money with which to buy those funds. Result? The local economy gets an artificial (but temporary) boost and that Asian central bank loads up on U.S. Treasury bonds.

Our concerns about Protectionism are rather quaint in comparison to such outright "MoneyPulation".

Protectionist concerns are irrelevant in the current economic contraction, since trade is severely collapsing even without any obvious protectionist policies. Later in any recovery, this concern might be more relevant.

I agree with Ray Fisher. Look after America first. If America can get back on her feet, she will be in far better shape to help the rest of us. If she cannot, then international trade won't save us.

And what do we think everyone else will do? Governments all over the world are looking to help their OWN business sectors. It is only logical. Japan is not going to send checks to Chrysler.

I am writing from Canada, and our politicians and economists are just as silly as anyone else on this topic. But to expect America to help us first is bizarre. Especially with money borrowed against her own uture. This is not helpful in moving us forward collectively.

If America's money helps American businesses first, then soon enough those businesses will start trading internationally.

BTW Stimulation Packages everywhere will end up having very disappointing results, so in that respect, our discussion here is futile.

A. Viirlaid 7:09PM February 03, 2009

If there were ever a time we need very quick and effective ways of getting people back to work, its now and using the blanket "protectionism" criticism is short sided. These "Buy American" stipulations have been in play for 60 years. Nothing is new in the stimulus package. And it's only for severely needed infrastructure for this country. Its not going to affect our consumer items so everyone is making a big deal out of this for nothing.

Diana of WA 7:12AM February 03, 2009

I find it insulting that the People are accused of being seduced by "crack cocaine". Who are these wealthy ruling-class swindlers to tell us what is in our self interest? We have listened to these privileged spend-all-day-golfing good-old-boys long enough to know that we've been fooled by their free trade propaganda. And another thing, what exactly justifies the continued economic privilege of the Wall Street ruling class? At this point you can't say they've earned it. Why do hard working people like my father have to face the prospect of working until the day they die because their retirement savings disappeared while these wealthy thieves make off with the fortunes they've socked away over the last decade? They need to be locked up with their assets sold. Ask yourselves this: Are we citizens or subjects?

Hilary Smith of CA 2:08AM February 03, 2009

In the economic history of any nation, there are times and circumstances which dictate governments take a protectionist approach to economic challenges. A variety of circumstances from natural disasters to wars to economic malfeasance can warrant a protectionist mentality becauseany economist knows in any given economy securing the flow of money is crucial to growth which severely limits trade as the money flow leaves any given economy via external trading partners. In our present situation we face a combination of government deregulation, malfeasance, war, trade deficits, national debt and global economy built around our national economy, hence as America goes, so goes the world!!! At present, it is a prudent move to hasten recovery of the world's economy by first repairing America's economy via a "Buy American" approach reducing costs and limiting imports, allowing the economy to create wealth through employment, services, infrastructure investments and tax revenue while the regulatory agencies have time to review and reregulate markets to rebuild the economy for America and the world. In short, it makes no sense to repair an economy while outsourcing the revenue streams supporting that economy.

Ray Fisher of NM 3:02PM February 02, 2009

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