There are pros and cons in each profession. If it is for you then the pros will outwiegh the cons in your eyes.
Laurenof FL5:42PM July 06, 2012
This post stereotypes way too much. Yes, there are situations in academia in which students are lazy idiots and professors are frustrated geniuses.
There are also situations in which students benefit from and learn alongside a professor who starts an interesting conversation that is relevant to students’ lives. I see no reason to disrespect the intellect of “their students” without dealing with specific cases of behavior in the classroom, and without keeping in mind that a good professor will inspire students to learn in the same way that a bad professor will turn students off and not enhance their students’ intellect.
I think that if people want more intellectual diversity on college campuses, then all that they have to do is speak their mind freely. This is a free country, and I don’t see how specific cases of campus politics are good reasons for not entering into any field. Politics is everywhere… let’s not pretend that the same kind of fighting can’t be found in libraries, banks, etc.
And finally, on a more general note, we need more responsible and positive people to enter academia at a time when our society is in need of help. Let’s talk about how to make academia less political more suitable for society’s needs, but let’s stop discouraging people from entering positions that can make a positive difference in the lives of others.
JPof NY2:30PM April 07, 2012
Dear Jack-
Ugghh. I totally agree. I always say to my friends that my university colleagues are so nasty to one another because the stakes are so low. People fight and backstab over nothing . . . which program gets to list a course . . . who didn't respond to an email in a timely fashion . . . what time a class will be listed . . . REALLY???? Get a LIFE people!!!
Doctor Professorof NY8:34PM January 31, 2011
How tragic that in our society we value super models, and celebrities moreso than Educators, Scientists, Police officers, and healthcare personnel.
Back when i was a Paramedic in NYC i encountered the best and worst of humanity. We were frequently placed in physically, mentally, and emotionally high risk situations in order to save or otherwise help our fellow human beings.
It was a low paying job, at the time, and still is when you consider the danger and "sacrifice" involved.
An acquaintance of mine, on the other hand, who worked in a safe and comfortable work environment, made anywhere from $5-30K in ONE DAY.
She was a Model who averaged a monthly income of around $15-20K for just a few days of work. In a year she cleared 6 figures even with an "unemployment" lapse of 2-3 months. She was offered the world by men and companies simply because she was ~beautiful.
It didn't matter that she was not very intelligent or that she never attended college and barely made it through high school. It didn't matter that she was egotistical, self absorbed and wouldn't lift a finger to help someone.
The only thing that mattered was her beauty.
Now at the age of 44 she is "retired". Having earned so much money during her teens through her 30's there is no need for her to ever work again- anywhere.
She married a wealthy stockbroker who manages her money since she has no idea how to do it herself. (lets hope he doesn't met a "younger model" and walk out of the marriage with all the money). She has, in her life, made 0 difference in the life of another human being.
Ironically, years ago, i used to be envious of her but not anymore. Now i kind of feel sorry for her- though financially secure she is broke in so many other ways.
In contrast here i sit, in my 40's, unable to retire (though i wouldn't want to at this age anyway) yet excited at the prospect of another career change.
Unlike my Model friend, I have always had a "purpose" my whole life and have had so many amazing experiences in the course of fulfilling that purpose. Though i am not financially rich, i am rich in ways that truly matter and are much more meaningful.
I have the essentials --- a wonderful home, a healthy family, the desire, health and strength to continue working in ways that will positively impact the lives of others
I don't want for anything and prefer to have few material possessions (much less cleaning involved).
It's so important for people to stop wanting less of what they don't have and to start appreciating more what they do have. Try it and believe me you will start seeing the world in an entirely different way.
Live for today, anticipate and prepare for tomorrow but don't become so fearful of not having a million $ in your 401k.
As long as you're healthy there's no reason why you can't work into your 70's and 80's. My grandparents did and loved every minute of it!
Their secret?:
1. They had a purpose
2. They loved what they did for a living.
JackieNeutronof TX5:04PM June 05, 2010
What about the rewards of teaching? THe warm fuzzy feeling you get when you can impart your knowledge unto someone else? That moment of, "I get it!"? That Ladies and Gentlemen, is what it is about.
Fowlerof CO4:26PM March 01, 2010
I had quite a few jobs prior to becoming a university professor. I can honestly say that I have never had to deal with such vicious, petty, aggressive, obnoxious colleagues at any of my previous jobs. My colleagues are like a bunch of prostitutes squabbling over quarter tips. Funding for everything is always a struggle. My building is filthy, there is no money for even the most basic equipment and supplies and we have had a total of 4% increase in salary over the past five years. We are fighting to keep health insurance. What good is tenure with no benefits? I would not advise anyone to consider a career as a university professor.
Jack Smithof IN10:56PM November 12, 2009
Anything can be great if you are in the top 1%, if you consistently work your tail off to stay there, and if you are lucky. No surprise there. But we are talking probabilities and we are asking which careers are a cool place to be for most people in those careers.
In sports, it is a no-brainer that while the top one tenth of one percent of boxers make great money for a couple of years, most boxers end up broke, brain damaged, and in pain. Meanwhile, most golfers tend to have long careers and pretty decent lives. Overall, if you want a happy life, your odds are better as a golfer than a boxer. We aren't talking Tyson v. Tiger...we are talking averages.
In careers, if you want a happy life, some careers give better odds than others. That's a no brainer. I'm in an overrated career...but so what, we all have a choice...we don't have to stay where we are.
JSof CA2:37AM November 10, 2009
Well, some of the article is true. It left out the real positives - when you do get those brilliant, driven, and enjoyable students (especially grad students) and you DO make a difference, and the real negatives - the fact that we really and truly get paid peanuts, especially if you compare us to our colleagues in industry, and that a 60, 70, or 80 hour work week is more the norm than the rarity. I wouldn't do anything else, but my family and social life suffer and have for 10 years now. Not to mention - tenure isn't what it once was, with post-tenure annual reviews now the norm. Research is as much about bringing IN grant dollars as it is putting OUT good product also - bean counters dominate in the academic society.
TiredDocof WY4:36PM October 12, 2009
Being a professor is a lot like other careers: Those who are good at it get the best jobs. Those who are not so good at it, because they are not driven to be successful or don't have the aptitude, end up pissed off adjunct professors who think the world has wronged them. Those who succeed aren't in it to get summers off, they're in it because they love what they do. Again, it's a lot like other careers. This "article" was completely off-base.
Daveof CO11:48PM October 10, 2009
Especially in BioMed research, quality of life really depends on the research load. The tension and competition in a medical research facility is off the charts. Forget having a home life. You're only "friends" are colleagues you meet at conferences since there's no time for a friendly chat with your real world neighbors. All of your time is spent writing grants. Plus, the further up you go, the less time you spend actually doing experiments or other hands-on work. I spent 5 years in grad school, 3 years in a post-doc,and have run my own lab for 5 years. Today I spend most of my time at my desk writing grants, reviewing my students papers, and talking at conferences. I've pretty much missed the first 5 years of my sin's life. The only joy is teaching - something I'm discouraged to do since it takes time away from writing grants.
Tenure be damned - it's not worth it. I've already put in notice that I won't be applying for promotion.
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