Feel like there's no safe place to put your money this year? It's understandable given the wild ride in stocks lately. With the threat of recession looming, not many Wall Street fund managers are crowing about their early returns in 2008.
But Michael Cuggino can. Thanks to its conservative style, his $2.5 billion Permanent Portfolio (PRPFX) fund is managing to squeeze out gains this year even as equity markets sink under the weight of problems in credit and housing.
Thanks to its broad composition—heavy on gold and treasuries with some Swiss bonds, stocks, real estate, and other commodities thrown in—the fund has notched a 5.7 percent gain so far this year against an S&P 500 that is down 6.8 percent. As such, it makes sense that Cuggino is a bit more upbeat on the economy than some. While he worries the rate-cutting Federal Reserve isn't paying enough attention to inflation, he sees all the extra cash in the system that comes with low interest rates as a likely boon for American stocks right now. Excerpts:
When was the buy point for long-term stock investors like you?
For me, it's been most of the first quarter. I've been feeling like if there is a recession, it won't be that deep. On that basis, U.S. stocks are cheap on a cost basis because of the weakening dollar and on a [price-earnings] basis. This liquidity is sowing the seeds of growth going forward. If you want to play that, you want to be in U.S. stocks. You want to do it now so you're ahead of the curve. What companies do you like?
I think energy and natural resource stocks are still in a great position. I would point to Freeport McMoR an. I don't see supply and demand in the copper markets cooling off anytime soon. As was the case of Phelps Dodge, which it acquired, Freeport is very good at cost cutting and refining operations. Copper is selling at just under 4 bucks a pound, which is a traditionally very good price. That company will print money under those conditions. BHP Billiton is another one I like more as a broad-based proxy for metals. In addition, they've ramped up petroleum production a little bit. They have tremendous pricing power in iron ore, which you need to make steel. Another that comes to mind is The Mosaic Co., the feed and fertilizer company. Those stocks are on fire right now. Whether it's Mosaic, Monsanto, or Potash, it's the same story. More and more land is being used to produce ethanol, and you couple that with demand for food and more scarcity of land, you need these things. I think these companies will do well for a long time. They're not cheap, but they are in areas with significant growth.
Those are mostly stocks that have had a good run this year. What about buying beaten-down sectors?
As the economy turns into its next leg of growth, you'll see financial services rebound, especially investment banks. It's very encouraging in the last few days that Washington Mutual took in some cash to shore up its balance sheet. Citigroup sold some of their worst assets to a willing buyer at arm's length. That is confidence building, and it's huge. It's as good as anything the Fed could do. You have to have a strong stomach and a long-term time horizon, but if you do, you definitely want to look in some of these areas. I also like smaller biotechs. They're beaten down with good dividends. I like the ones in the middle—not the Pfizers and Bristol Myers, but [companies] like Genentech, Amgen, the Gilead Sciences, and Celgene. The above includes a lot of commodity plays. Do you worry about the dollar rebounding and hurting those ideas?
I think while the U.S. talks up a strong dollar, the [Fed's] actions speak louder, and they portend a weaker dollar. A weaker dollar allows more people to work. It allows them to create more goods and services to be sold abroad, which is good for the trade deficit. And it's good for housing because if more people are working, they're more likely to pay their mortgages. You can talk up a strong dollar, but I don't think it's an accident the dollar has declined and Fed policy has been what it's been. It potentially offsets recessionary pressures. I like hard assets for that reason.