7 Reasons Job Hoppers Are Worse Off in Retirement

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I'm just not sure how 401k's work. If I change jobs now, at the age of 46, will I have to basically start over with another 401k to be able to retire at the age of 62. I would just plan on rolling the present 401k over to the next. Right now at my present job, the papers say I can retire in 13 years with full pay. I still don't know how it all works

Karolyn Reel of WV 3:00PM February 20, 2013

I'm a mid-Boomer at 55. I have invested in stock mutual funds since 1981 with my retirement accounts. There's a big chunk of change there after 30 years even with the drop(s), but it is 1/4th of the value of the rental real estate I started buying in the nineties. In addition to the value, I receive almost six figures in annual rents which just sweeten the pot.

Forget stocks, and buy rental real estate.

Doug of OR 2:28PM April 05, 2010

Magazines like Kiplinger's and Money, and financial advisors used to have retirement charts and calculators that assumed 12% returns. Then they assumed 10% returns and now they assume 8% returns. (Yeah, right!)

Real inflation is 7% to 8% per year, according to Shadowstats.com, which provides real information about inflation, rather than the cooked Federal government CPI inflation numbers that substitute hamburger meat for steak when the price of steak goes up, and deliberately reduce the impact of rising costs like of health care (3 times the rate of gov't inflation) and college education (3 times also the rate of gov't inflation) and fuel and food prices (also high).

At the same time, the government has rapidly increased what it calls "Quantitative Easing", which is another way to say, printing money out of thin air to spend, to make everyone else's money worth less.

Also at the same time, the Baby Boomers will be withdrawing their retirement funds from the stock market to cover their retirement expenses. So who's gonna buy those stocks? There aren't enough people below them to pick up the slack.

So where does that put the average saver and investor? At zero.

Paul of CA 9:21AM April 05, 2010

America stinks for the professional worker... I am much happier in Europe!

Johnt of NJ 1:45AM April 05, 2010

6% is supposed to be a conservative rate of return for a retirement fund. Baloney: a diversified portfolio might get you 3-4% for a good long while - and that includes dividends. All these retirement calculators are suspect.

Hindenburg of CA 12:33AM April 05, 2010

I have not been anywhere near an annual return of 7% during the 13 years I have contributed to a 401(k) plan. Overall, I have lost money!! - and my plan is well diversified - according to analysts from several financial institutions.

401(k) matching comes and goes. The only thing that has not gone down is the administrative fees.

I would have been better of leaving it in cash ....

Joe of MA 3:41PM February 16, 2010

Their used to be an expression in the pension industy: "what starts with F and ends with K and means screw your employees? 401K".

You don't hear that as traditional pensions have gone the way of the dinosaur, but it's still true. Limited and lousy investment choices proliferate as employers try to get free or low cost administrative services. In addition, their restrictions on your money, a lack of protected payout options, etc. Worse, the income is taxed as ordinary income upon withdrawal, unless you take it early and get hit with a special penalty. 401k loans are legalized robbery by servcicew providers (and the government that counts interest you essentially pay yourself as income)

There's no guarantee tax rates will be lower in the future and a good chance they'll go up.

As a CPA, I tell my advisees; put in only enough to get a match, otherwise, open a Roth. The itty bitty tax deduction isn't worth all the conditions employers and the IRS put on these plans.

Greeneyeshade of PA 12:57PM February 16, 2010

You're wrong. Job shoppers make 20-30% more money. It'a all about cash, stupid. This 401K is crap. The NASDAQ, S&P and DOW are at the salme levels they were 11 years ago. They'd be better off with a 2% CD.

Matt P of CA 12:01PM February 16, 2010

I know what it is like to be a job hopper, many times not thru my fault. I was a tool and die maker and many times I was hired when there was more work then the company could handle. When the job was over I was layed off. Luckly I was able to find a stable job and thru a 401K plan I invested heavily and was able to pull off a decent retirement. To those who enjoy job hopping, you'll just have to suffer the consequences.

Neal of GA 10:33AM February 10, 2010

You comments are right on. One must be careful in moving from one job to another to understand the impact on 401k and other savings mechanisms. Waiting periods can certainly have an impact on the total contribution to the plan. For those that are considering working on their own, visit http://www.enjoy-retirement-jobs.com for ideas even if not near retirement. Even then, care is required in starting out your own 401k.

Don of TX 1:32PM February 09, 2010

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